On Leonard Lopate At Large Today, Leanord has a conversation with Michele Gelfand, author of “Rule Makers, Rule Breakers.”

Michele Gelfand is a professor of psychology at the University of Maryland, College Park. She is the author of “The Secret Life of Social Norms” and “Rule Makers, Rule Breakers.”

In Rule Makers, Rule Breakers celebrated cultural psychologist Michele Gelfand takes us on an epic journey through human cultures, offering a startling new view of the world and ourselves. With a mix of brilliantly conceived studies and surprising on-the-ground discoveries, she shows that much of the diversity in the way we think and act derives from a key difference—how tightly or loosely we adhere to social norms.

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